John McCain on Torture

The vast majority of screeds against torture are based on poor reasoning, ignorance and false assumptions, and usually put forth with a heavy dose of self-righteous indignation that anyone might possibly disagree. But occasionally there is a more thoughtful and reasoned argument, such as John McCain's op-ed in the Washington Post. McCain starts out by acknowledging that torture is difficult to define, and makes it clear that his opinions are based on his own definition -- an intellectually honest approach you don't see very often.

Much of this debate is a definitional one: whether any or all of these methods constitute torture. I believe some of them do, especially waterboarding, which is a mock execution and thus an exquisite form of torture. As such, they are prohibited by American laws and values, and I oppose them.

He also points out that those that ordered and carried out controversial interrogation methods did so in the service of the country.

I don’t believe anyone should be prosecuted for having used these techniques, and I agree that the administration should state definitively that they won’t be.

He's right. People who carried out methods that were deemed legal at the time, should not be hauled up on charges later in an ideological witchhunt that serves no purpose. McCain goes on to weigh-in on the debate about whether or not intelligence gained from waterboarding had a part in finding bin Laden. He says no. But his source is Leon Panetta. Sorry, Senator. A political appointee of the Obama administration heading the CIA is hardly the final word. But he also writes,

I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners sometimes produces good intelligence but often produces bad intelligence because under torture a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear — true or false — if he believes it will relieve his suffering. Often, information provided to stop the torture is deliberately misleading.

Here is someone with first-hand knowledge of torture pointing out that it does sometimes produce accurate intelligence. Why is this important? Because despite this fact, numerous people arguing against torture claim definitively that it doesn't work -- in complete denial of reality.

Instead of denying reality, John McCain's argument rests primarily on moral grounds. He thinks the U.S. has to be better than other nations, and he personally feels that the use of torture is incompatible with his views of U.S. values.

I don’t mourn the loss of any terrorist’s life. What I do mourn is what we lose when by official policy or official neglect we confuse or encourage those who fight this war for us to forget that best sense of ourselves. Through the violence, chaos and heartache of war, through deprivation and cruelty and loss, we are always Americans, and different, stronger and better than those who would destroy us.

John McCain, especially given his personal experience, makes a pretty compelling case. The main problem that I have with this sort of moral argument is that ultimately it becomes absolutist. As a general proposition it is reasonable that the U.S. shouldn't resort to torture. But general rules have exceptions, and we have recognized such exceptions in the past. Just because something is a bad idea most of the time does not mean it is a bad idea all of the time, or that doing something normally ugly and reprehensible might not be justified under certain circumstances.

McCain States the Obvious but Misses the Point

Senator John McCain continued his loud criticism of President Obama's withdrawal timetable in Afghanistan.

"It was purely a political decision," McCain said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "Not one based on facts on the ground, not one based on military strategy."

Of course it's a political decision. The president is a political leader, and the question of when to withdraw from Afghanistan is every bit as much a political as a military issue. Whether you agree with ideas behind them or not, political & strategic factors are just as important or more important than those based purely on the military situation in Afghanistan.   

McCain said the president needs "to just come out and say this is conditions-based and conditions-based only."

That depends on how you see our overall goals with regard to Afghanistan. I agree with McCain about the negative impact of the timetable. But a timetable makes sense if you view the war in a different way. If your primary goal is to reduce the U.S. commitment and force the Afghans to take more responsibility, a clear timetable for withdrawal can serve that purpose. A purely conditions-based trigger for withdrawal means that the current U.S. force level has to be maintained indefinitely, which causes a different set of problems than a fixed timetable. McCain has become fixated on one aspect of the issue and appears to be ignoring everything else.

American Citizens, Even Terrorists, Have Rights

There's no one more outspoken than I against terrorist rights supporters, those who claim that alien terror suspects are entitled to U.S. constitutional rights. Extending the rights of Americans to foreign enemies is not only idiotic, it degrades and weakens the protections of individual liberty that we enjoy in this country, and cheapens the entire concept of U.S. citizenship. But when an American -- naturalized citizen or not -- is charged with a crime, even an act of terrorism in support of foreign enemies of the U.S., that person is still entitled to the rights specified under the constitution.

Senator John McCain asserted today that we shouldn't give the NYC car bomber his Miranda rights "until we find out what it's all about." McCain is wrong. Faisal Shahzad is an American citizen and should be treated as such. If the government can take away the constitutional rights of a U.S. citizen because they aren't convenient  in investigating an act of terrorism, then our rights are essentially worthless, subject to being suspended whenever the government decides that an act we are accused of is heinous enough to warrant ignoring the normal constitutional process. American citizenship should mean something. I know it doesn't mean much to terrorist rights supporters, but I'm disappointed to see that John McCain is willing to set it aside as an inconvenient obstacle to investigation.